Family members or outsiders; who should I employ?

Kennysplash

Well-known member
Very soon I want to start a business, I just need to put together a few more things. Now what is bothering me is who to employ, because I will need like a dozen employment. Granted, I know some families members that are in need of employment but I don't trust them, and for good reason. This is not my first business, I had established a small one two years back and I employed relatives. But I cannot start relating what they did to me. They were being lackadaisical, uninterested, they were just acting anyhow. Some of them are older than me and this makes it somehow hard to reprimand them. I won't allow such action from other employees that are not my relatives, but when it comes to those that are supposed to support me the most, they are actually doing the opposite. Now they know what I am about to do again and I am already hearing words that some of them are expecting to work for me. Should I employ them again or just go for outsiders that I can handle?
 

Bookwormlux

Well-known member
Trust is a very important aspect of any business. What they are trying to do to you right now is nothing more than cheap emotional blackmail. I am glad you have given them a chance in the past but they misused it, it would be disastrous to trust them this time around, a leopard never change its spots.

That they are mostly older than you is what makes it more of emotional blackmail. They are feeling entitled to you, believing you are the one that is responsible for all their needs. And it's not true.

Take your Stand and only employ qualified people even though they ain't family members. After All, what is family when your business is not moving well? They won't support you, so better think properly
 

Kennysplash

Well-known member
Trust is a very important aspect of any business. What they are trying to do to you right now is nothing more than cheap emotional blackmail. I am glad you have given them a chance in the past but they misused it, it would be disastrous to trust them this time around, a leopard never change its spots.

That they are mostly older than you is what makes it more of emotional blackmail. They are feeling entitled to you, believing you are the one that is responsible for all their needs. And it's not true.

Take your Stand and only employ qualified people even though they ain't family members. After All, what is family when your business is not moving well? They won't support you, so better think properly
Thank you very much for this. I know that is what I should do, if it is about trust, they have erased it from me totally. After I made the decision to let them off due to the harm they are bringing my business, you need to see how they were treating me and talking ill of me. But who cares, they had their chance and they misused it. No one as employee should be allowed to cause harm in any way in a business, not even a family member. If the business collapses they will go somewhere else, and I had no one's help in establishing this business. So bye to relatives, I should go for those that I can manage, not those that will manage me.
 

Yugocean

Moderator
Staff member
If you employ your relatives in your business, then surely your relation with them will come in, even firing them is hard because this will hit the relationship wall. This is up to you to decide whom you want to employ, but a right-minded employer have to employ only honest and hardworking people. Hiring relatives/people from same caste/tribe group or community is one thing for local business, this is only good when you have to keep business at that level only. My advice is, take help only from family members, but employ only those who are able to maintain the work responsibility.
 

Josemendez

Well-known member
Just as you said , with family members , it is not always easy for us treat them as they deserve when they misbehave ,but then when it comes to business one should not consider any family ties ,less the business is bound to fail.

In my opinion , there is a saying that one starts from home . Since there are family relatives that are jobless , those of them you think that are little bit trustworthy should be employed ,but with the agreement that they are subject to dismissal upon misconduct. If they accept the terms , then give them a chance and monitor them. It won't be ideal to allow your relatives to be jobless while you offer job to outsiders .

Will only have to monitor their action ,and hesitate not to sack them ,if you discover that they are not doing what will promote the business.
 

eenya00

New member
Am going to advise you from my own personal experience, don't hire who you can't correct, scold and most importantly sack, be it a family member or an outsider, but in a situation like yours, a business that is starting out, I would recommend you make use of the services of outsiders and not your family members as it would be easier for you to deal with emotionally. Because in sacking your family member, you would feel this guilt trip and let's take for instance in an African setting, it might even result to a deepen family crisis that might traumatize you emotionally,which could drain energy that could be used in pushing your business further.
 

Abupharm

New member
It is better and safer that you employ an outsider. For a successful business you have to look above family ties, your family will likely take your business with levity hands because they got it on a platter of gold rather than getting qualified for the position. The sole condition i will advise you to employ your family into business is only if you have maximum control over them and the business, and they are ready to follow all the work ethics.
 

Akinwale701

Well-known member
Very soon I want to start a business, I just need to put together a few more things. Now what is bothering me is who to employ, because I will need like a dozen employment. Granted, I know some families members that are in need of employment but I don't trust them, and for good reason. This is not my first business, I had established a small one two years back and I employed relatives. But I cannot start relating what they did to me. They were being lackadaisical, uninterested, they were just acting anyhow. Some of them are older than me and this makes it somehow hard to reprimand them. I won't allow such action from other employees that are not my relatives, but when it comes to those that are supposed to support me the most, they are actually doing the opposite. Now they know what I am about to do again and I am already hearing words that some of them are expecting to work for me. Should I employ them again or just go for outsiders that I can handle?
Whether family members or not, I think the purpose of a business is what determines the kind of people you want to employ. business is different from familiar matters, but when your family members are trustworthy and capable of handling your business, you can try employing a few of them.
 

Olajidey

Valued Contributor
I am not in support of that, not all the family members will be rude ,there are some that will be trustworthy and willing to work wit you. If you decide not to employ non of the family member believe me the hat will be much what you need to do is look for the trust worthy and those you knw that will abide with the rules and regulation.
This is your business and you should not held anything back if you feel those you employ are not taking your business serious either family member or not
 

Bookwormlux

Well-known member
Thank you very much for this. I know that is what I should do, if it is about trust, they have erased it from me totally. After I made the decision to let them off due to the harm they are bringing my business, you need to see how they were treating me and talking ill of me. But who cares, they had their chance and they misused it. No one as employee should be allowed to cause harm in any way in a business, not even a family member. If the business collapses they will go somewhere else, and I had no one's help in establishing this business. So bye to relatives, I should go for those that I can manage, not those that will manage me.
I like your last statement. If you are the one managing your employees, it would be easy to take disciplinary measures against them and make sure they do not do anything that would cause you to run in to losses. This makes you have peace of mind because you are sure of the fact that they would do anything to make sure you won't get mad at them.

If you had not given those relatives of yours a chance, it would have been a different case entirely. But they failed you and any right thinking person in your situation would definitely opt for a better alternative.
don't agree when they try to convince you into thinking they wouldn't repeat same thing, you will regret.
 

Seyesystem

Well-known member
There is nothing wrong in employing members of the family in business since he or her is qualified for the work.But In family business there must be legal documentations of how the business will operate.In business it's good to separate family from business and even in business concept the owner is separated from the business. For any business to be successful you must separate yourself and family from the business. If the owner and his family are not separated from the business there is tendency of the business to failed. There must be boundaries in business. Business is business and family is family.
 

Peppul

Well-known member
There is a saying that there is no family when it comes to business but at the same time the reason why we establish a business is because of the purpose of creating a legacy down for our family. Most people will choose to employ outsider and the other family, it depend on what individual wants. For me I will consider both, if any of my family member is qualified for the job why then will I want to employ an outsider over my family. It's more preferable for me to have a business that consist of my family member, people you can easily trust. Although it also has its own disadvantages but it still preferable than choosing and outsider over my family member.
 

Donkiz

Well-known member
There's no law that says we cannot employ our family members in our business if they are qualified for such employment. One of the advantages of employing family members in your business, especially at the early stage of the business is that it saves you the time and resources needed to start recruiting outsiders. Also you can afford to pay them less compared to outsiders.

I know that most people avoid involving family members in their business because they are usually known to be lazy and unproductive, which can be traced to the feeling of familiarity with the business owner. This can be averted if you as a business owner made everyone to understand from the onset that whatever you are doing with them is strictly business and no one should expect any special treatment.
 

Kinglegend01

Active member
I think the whole Idea of you employing someone is because you can't handle all the work needed to be done on your business alone on your own and you require the help of another person. I think the major requirement for hiring anyone is for you to trust that person whether the person is your family members or an outsider. It would be a good idea to hire your family member because you would be more relaxed and comfortable hiring such person over an outsider who would make to always be on your guard. But then not all family members are trustworthy and honest and not all outsiders are dishonest and not trustworthy.
 

Abu4exel

Member
In businesses, u consider somethings first, maximization and profitability. Employing ur relation could post a big risk or gain to these two and also employing non relation could be of same too. So we don't employ base on favoritism or tribalism but on merit ability.
 

Bookwormlux

Well-known member
I think the whole Idea of you employing someone is because you can't handle all the work needed to be done on your business alone on your own and you require the help of another person. I think the major requirement for hiring anyone is for you to trust that person whether the person is your family members or an outsider. It would be a good idea to hire your family member because you would be more relaxed and comfortable hiring such person over an outsider who would make to always be on your guard. But then not all family members are trustworthy and honest and not all outsiders are dishonest and not trustworthy.
Sure, one has to make sure he settles for the best, without letting some sentiments take over his sense of reasoning. It should always be that you choose your employees based on merit. If it comes to the finance department for instance, one may think that a family member would be more reliable, but you never can tell. It is best to get a professional accountant who has undergone the training. This kind of person would exhibit more sense of professionalism because he knows that any mistake would put his reputation at stake. So many factors to consider.
 

Kennysplash

Well-known member
In businesses, u consider somethings first, maximization and profitability. Employing ur relation could post a big risk or gain to these two and also employing non relation could be of same too. So we don't employ base on favoritism or tribalism but on merit ability.
Exactly, that was the mistake I made. I didn't see anything that showed capability in them, but because they are my relatives and I saw that they are doing nothing I employed them. Now it has cost me a lot. I will not make that mistake anymore, anyone that is working for you nonchalantly should be let off since it is not by force. Your business is very important, not even a family member should treat it like it doesn't matter. I have learnt my lesson and would not make that mistake again.
 

Lekhraj19

Valued Contributor
In businesses, trust is one of the most important thing. But, when you employ people of your family you will feel good in the beginning as you know them well. But, what actually happens is that when any problem comes and you and your family members have an issue there, then it can create severe damage to your relations.

Although, it depends on the compatibility of the people with which you are, if you can handle them with your kind and convincing words then it's not an issue. For that, you can try out a demo of compatibility drill that you can find on the Internet. If you both stand out on those, it means that it has less chances of misunderstanding ahead.
 

Sammyesx

Well-known member
It all depends on you and the individual In question, employing a family member is not a bad ideal, but the problem is the family member might become over comfortable and incompetent and you might not want to treat scold or caution him because of the family ties, a non relative will know that if he becomes incompetent he might lose his job, so he will be very careful.
 

Mataracy

Well-known member
As for I will say outsider because the way you can correct or punish the outside you may not be able to do the same to the family member.
Also their may be familiarity threat too because if you said you are going to sack family member they might call you to family gathering of meeting and tell you that if you dare try that ,that you will disown by the family and this will limit your best of judgment.
 
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